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Posted By: JIM Steam Jenny - 03/16/2020 05:23 AM
Another project in the works. This thing had a 7.5HP 3-ph motor in it. I have NO way to run that and I want it to be stand alone not require an external power supply, So another repower game. got a small inverter to power the gas valves, ignition module and solenoid valves for the unloader and chemical injection. 13 HP Predator in the works just like the one I put on the forklift. Pulled the gas tank off because. the pump will be mounted over the engine. had to rearrange components to make it all fit. Not sure where I'm going to mount the gas tank yet...Trying to keep it neat. want to use this for work.
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Posted By: sonny Re: Steam Jenny - 03/16/2020 02:24 PM
3 phase is always a problem! --You will find engine power will be way more useful! Lookin good!
Posted By: bunkclimber Re: Steam Jenny - 03/16/2020 09:20 PM
plenty of 3phase here..ironically I cuss single phase..but I can understand the portability desire..then all u need is diesel fuel oil and lots of water
Posted By: JIM Re: Steam Jenny - 03/16/2020 09:26 PM
gas and propane
Posted By: JIM Re: Steam Jenny - 03/17/2020 12:48 PM
Made a little progress yesterday on this too. couldn't really do any work because of school being out and I had the child yesterday. Got the engine mounted and the pump mocked up in place had just enough room for a gas tank under the hood. had just enough room left for a battery too.
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Modified the cover to allow the engine to stick out a little Works out for the exhaust and Access to the throttle without having to remove the cover.
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Need to cut a hole for the gas cap. should be around here some where.
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Posted By: JIM Re: Steam Jenny - 03/17/2020 12:51 PM
Future rotary Phaser converter. Should be big enough for any project I have. I don't see me running anything over 5 HP. This is 71/2.
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Posted By: sonny Re: Steam Jenny - 03/17/2020 03:46 PM
They say you can use a motor wired into another or sumpin like that to make 3 run on 1, too complicated for me to mess with!
I like the looks of this unit! Should be handy when you get it done.
Posted By: JIM Re: Steam Jenny - 03/17/2020 10:18 PM
Yeah in most basic terms... get a three phase motor spinning on single phase and it'll create the third phase for another motor. I've done it.
Posted By: GatorS Re: Steam Jenny - 03/18/2020 01:17 AM
I have a converter to run my mill and lathe. It uses a capacitor and relay to start a idler motor in single phase, then you take the third phase from the motor and use that as the third phase for your equipment.

My lathe is a little too big for the system I have but it works. I use the same converter to feed both, but only one at a time.
Posted By: JIM Re: Steam Jenny - 03/18/2020 12:33 PM
I have a couple Static inverters I use for testing compressors. I believe t6hat is how your idler is started.. Rotary inverters are the best. Static inverters create a false phase to start the motor then it runs on single phase. With the rotary the third phase is continuous as long as the idler is running..
Posted By: sonny Re: Steam Jenny - 03/18/2020 03:27 PM
I have a static converter that I used for a short time on my steel rule die press. --- They told me that the static converters will eat up the motors if used too long.
Posted By: bunkclimber Re: Steam Jenny - 03/24/2020 07:49 PM
Jim send me a PM when you want to build that rotary I have built many and have the tables for the cap sizing and HVAC pot relay part numbers that work..one in my shop is 24yrs old runs great,it starts a 5hp 2-stage recip air comp no sweat.Depending on what you want to run it's about a 50A supply circuit for a 7.5HP
Posted By: JIM Re: Steam Jenny - 03/24/2020 08:18 PM
Originally Posted by bunkclimber
Jim send me a PM when you want to build that rotary I have built many and have the tables for the cap sizing and HVAC pot relay part numbers that work..one in my shop is 24yrs old runs great,it starts a 5hp 2-stage recip air comp no sweat.Depending on what you want to run it's about a 50A supply circuit for a 7.5HP


Will do.... It's not on the top of my list at the moment but that could change any day. I have a half dozen HVAC pot relays on my Van. Butt load of start & run caps too,
Posted By: JIM Re: Steam Jenny - 03/26/2020 12:17 AM
Figured out the rear pump support issue

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I'll see if this piece of MAX track will hold up, if not I'll get a beefier piece. I just happened to have this one.
Posted By: sonny Re: Steam Jenny - 03/26/2020 12:58 AM
Worth a try! Ues what you have and go from there! Looks good!
Posted By: bunkclimber Re: Steam Jenny - 03/26/2020 10:22 AM
yes the kindorf strut is easy to use,we use it a lot for prototyping setups and equipment..lots of spring nuts and brackets available for most any situation..they make it in aluminum too-just finished a big project with that,easy to cut with a wood chopsaw..anyway looks like you have a good start on this one;) stay safe,Ive heard Walmart is the biggest breeding ground for virus right now
Posted By: JIM Re: Steam Jenny - 04/05/2020 02:20 AM
got some bugs worked out of the Jenny today. Bypass valve was stuck open, Mode select solenoid was stuck open. All the valves in the pump were stuck shut. got it cranked up and did a test run. I need to beef up the bottom of the cabinet. Too much flex. I'm going to take it off the legs and mount it on a trailer, so I'll wait until I set it on the trailer to re-enforce it so I don't have to redo it. The cheap select a size belt stretches' too fast but allowed me to fit it up so I can get the proper belts. found a different gas tank to use that I could mount on the exterior of the cabinet, so I don't have to cut a hole in the top of the cover for a gas cap now. I'll get up some pics tomorrow.
Posted By: JIM Re: Steam Jenny - 04/08/2020 11:56 PM
Found a gas tank that would work better... no need to cut a hole in the top now.
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Ignition switch is installed.
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YOU KNOW THE BURNER AT NIGHT GIVES OFF A ROMANTIC GLOW grin
Posted By: JIM Re: Steam Jenny - 04/09/2020 12:01 AM
MOUNTED on the trailer..
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Just enough space in front to mount the LP tank.
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Posted By: sonny Re: Steam Jenny - 04/09/2020 03:24 AM
That looks great! ---glad it came together.
Posted By: bunkclimber Re: Steam Jenny - 04/24/2020 09:11 PM
nice work Jim the trailer gives it portability..could do some money maker side work with it..the trailer fits it perfectly!
Posted By: JIM Re: Steam Jenny - 04/25/2020 11:29 AM
I hope to use it for work. Still need to make a mount for the LP tank and I have a hose reel I would like to mount some where too but not sure yet.
Posted By: bunkclimber Re: Steam Jenny - 04/28/2020 07:29 PM
good, now that it's on a trailer Sonny and I can borrow it easily..gotta get rid of those viral growths with some steam! on a serious note,have you trailered it around any yet? how does it handle with the long trailer tongue?
Posted By: sonny Re: Steam Jenny - 04/29/2020 04:12 AM
I got all kinds of stuff that needs cleaned! LOL!
Posted By: JIM Re: Steam Jenny - 05/06/2020 12:37 PM
Made some final touches. Just needs tail lights and I think she's ready for work.
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Posted By: sonny Re: Steam Jenny - 05/08/2020 04:17 PM
That looks nice!--should do the job!
Posted By: bunkclimber Re: Steam Jenny - 05/21/2020 11:15 AM
that trailer did work out just right..perfect size for the jennywasher system..it IS a system now!
Posted By: JIM Re: Steam Jenny - 05/21/2020 12:27 PM
Yep works great. think I finally got all the bugs worked out. Still think I need a bigger regulator though. It gets hot But I think the flame is not quite what it should be. went through a few regulators before I got one the would light the big burner. I ordered one on line based on the BTU data on the Jenny but that one didn't work. I have a 2 stage RV regulator on it right now.
Posted By: sonny Re: Steam Jenny - 05/21/2020 03:47 PM
Love it when things come together and work good!
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