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4000 ford loader build #2088 01/28/2021 07:44 PM
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Heres a pic of the loader I'm rebuilding for the 4000. Trying out the pic posting. So just this crappy pic for now

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Re: 4000 ford loader build [Re: Nnaatz] #2089 01/28/2021 07:51 PM
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Heres couple more pics

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Re: 4000 ford loader build [Re: Nnaatz] #2090 01/28/2021 07:55 PM
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Pics of the loader bracing and the loader frame wall heaviness. It's a westendorf loader, WL30 I believe. Had shortened the loader arms 11 inches. More to come

Re: 4000 ford loader build [Re: Nnaatz] #2095 01/29/2021 12:59 AM
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Lookin great! that is one heavy dude! Should serve you well!


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Re: 4000 ford loader build [Re: Nnaatz] #2096 01/29/2021 08:34 AM
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I did a loader repair on a 4000 some 20yrs ago,the end of the lift arm behind the bucket was bent.had to pull it hydraulically to get it back in line..it was sprung inside the bucket mount bosses,dont know how the previous owner got the bucket on it..I made gussets like yours,but just a bit shorter..the guy still uses it so I guess I did something right

Re: 4000 ford loader build [Re: Nnaatz] #2106 01/29/2021 04:55 PM
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Reason for one was, I could not find a ford one..or aleast one that wasn't 3d printed from weld. So I decided to find a good one and make fit than cut and grind and clean up a busted up one..I hate grinding. This came up for auction and was made for a narrow front so it went cheap. Got a engine driven hydraulic pump. The tractor hydraulics are painfully slow...pump is 14 gpm at like 2200 ripums...which is governed engine speed

Re: 4000 ford loader build [Re: Nnaatz] #2117 01/30/2021 04:04 PM
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Making square stuff round...building cylinder stroke limiters. I had changed the cylinder mounts some now stroke is to long. These will go in the cylinder top of 5he piston. 2 in long. An aluminum block is what I had. Turned them down to 2.700 and bore is just a scooch over 1.75 to slip nice on the rod

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Re: 4000 ford loader build [Re: Nnaatz] #2118 01/30/2021 07:16 PM
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man Nnaatz you did it the hard way on the lathe..last pair of limiters I made i just bought aluminum tubing that fit..nice work and patience..is that a 3jaw chuck? how did you center the block,or did you grip the inside bore?

Re: 4000 ford loader build [Re: Nnaatz] #2120 01/30/2021 11:13 PM
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It took time ..it what I had. Started life a 2x4 aluminium. Measured out and drilled two 1.5 holes to chuck on cleaned up outside face the front then bored square

Re: 4000 ford loader build [Re: Nnaatz] #2121 01/30/2021 11:18 PM
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Hour a piece

Re: 4000 ford loader build [Re: Nnaatz] #2125 01/31/2021 12:15 PM
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WOW --- some beautiful work there! --- Ya it takes time to do great work!


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Re: 4000 ford loader build [Re: Nnaatz] #2128 01/31/2021 04:13 PM
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Stroke limiter installed. Gave the rod a polish with some 400 and oil

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Re: 4000 ford loader build [Re: Nnaatz] #2129 01/31/2021 05:20 PM
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You put this INSIDE the cylinder?--WOW !! never seen that done before! Should do the job. That will shorten things up a bit for sure!


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Re: 4000 ford loader build [Re: Nnaatz] #2131 01/31/2021 06:10 PM
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I had moved the mounts so cylinder stroke was to long

Re: 4000 ford loader build [Re: Nnaatz] #2132 01/31/2021 06:11 PM
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It would bind before it stroked out

Re: 4000 ford loader build [Re: Nnaatz] #2134 01/31/2021 06:27 PM
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ya, that would be a problem---- looks like you solved it quite simply!


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Re: 4000 ford loader build [Re: Nnaatz] #2143 02/02/2021 08:09 AM
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I had to do that with the tilt & trim cylinders on a boat I had. Changed the drive package and the replacement would hit the swim platform. Darnn near tore it off first time I raised the drive. 1" stoke limiters in the cylinders solved the problem. Pretty sure I posted that up on Matt's old site. Probably the 1st site. That was some time ago. Lost some good stuff on that shift too.

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Re: 4000 ford loader build [Re: Nnaatz] #2148 02/02/2021 07:32 PM
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Loader under its. Own power. I gotta put a guage on it because I dont remember what the relief is set at....the 14 gpm crank driven pump seams to motivate it quite well

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Re: 4000 ford loader build [Re: Nnaatz] #2150 02/02/2021 08:39 PM
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them front mount pumps are the only way to go on loaders! LOL!! -- Lookin good there!


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Re: 4000 ford loader build [Re: Nnaatz] #2158 02/03/2021 06:02 PM
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Bucket is pinned on...will need a cutting edge and chain hooks....possibly bushings made for loader pins little sloppy they are

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Re: 4000 ford loader build [Re: Nnaatz] #2159 02/03/2021 07:31 PM
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nice work,looks clean.

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Thanks!

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Now to devise a grill guard and pump guard

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Re: 4000 ford loader build [Re: Nnaatz] #2165 02/03/2021 11:58 PM
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Wont be long now!!


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Re: 4000 ford loader build [Re: Nnaatz] #2168 02/04/2021 06:24 AM
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I was gonna suggest that be guarded Nnaatz but didnt want to sound judgemental

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Lol....yep its had its teeth knocked out once.....I gotta pull the nose off to do some body work. I need pull loader off again to finish welding...I'm not a flexible as I once was

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I think most of us are not as flexible as we used to be! lol! I know I am not! ---- gotta cheat a bit when I weld now days too!
Pump guards are kinda needed, no matter how careful you are----your gonna bump something!! lol! it just happens!
Didnt have one on the TD-9 dozer I had ----ya had a few close calls with it! The TD-9 loader I had was a big front cover on it ----it was made out of 1/4 or 1/2 inch stuff punched with round holes for air flow to rad. and covered the whole front of the tractor.
They do save the pump and rad. from damage.


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Re: 4000 ford loader build [Re: bunkclimber] #2178 02/04/2021 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bunkclimber
I was gonna suggest that be guarded Nnaatz but didnt want to sound judgemental


Haha Bit my tong too. Because.....
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But my pump doesn't stick out as far. I do need to re-rout the discharge hose though. this ones getting hammered. the pump is actually flush with the Front bumper which is actually a support for the loader frame.


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Re: 4000 ford loader build [Re: Nnaatz] #2184 02/05/2021 08:51 AM
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I'm not quite sure how I'm gonna protect the pressure line yet....maybe just a couple of loose fitting hoops...I don't know

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However I got reminded last night on how it sucked to run an open station tractor blower in the wind...
I did not use the loader it's just still ticky tackied in many places yet

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Re: 4000 ford loader build [Re: Nnaatz] #2191 02/05/2021 11:07 AM
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Brrrrrrrr.

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YA! blowers and wind = miserable day for sure! --- just keep the snow up there!


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Re: 4000 ford loader build [Re: Nnaatz] #2208 02/06/2021 04:18 PM
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Pump guard start

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That looks great!---- your pump will thank you many times over for it!


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well mine is actually flush with the bumper/support but I do need to fix the hose. just need to put a straight swivel in vice the 45.
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That's pretty well tucked up under there

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Small progress tonight

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Originally Posted by Nnaatz
That's pretty well tucked up under there

Yeah I should actualy make a skid plate to protect it from running over piles of dirt & stuff..

Damn ...another project.

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Looking good


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Looks like a factory build! Great work!


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