dont think I can. -- its too damn hard to set under long enough to figure anything out. They have all them damn angles and bends. Granted something could be cobbled up I guess.
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not my dilemma but I did take a look on ebay for spring hangers and the parts interchange states for a 97 F350 dually that an F150 has the same hanger? seems kinda odd to me..any good yards will use the Hollander Interchange Guide to reference parts but Im not sure if the spring hangers are called out as seperate parts from the frame. If you give us the VIN number of the truck we can check for you and prolly find ya a pair..front or back rear spring hangers Sonny? you did say 2-1/4"wide springs not 3" fun challenge
Ya , 2 -1/4" and they SAY f-150 BUT when you go to the descriptions, it says "does NOT fit cab/chassics models" , -- and that is what mine is. some go by wheel base and I dont have a clue what mine is.--sounds odd,--right? I need the front AND back of the rear axle hangers on BOTH sides of the truck. my old shackles/bushings are o.k., but not sure they will stand dis-assembly/re-assembly. They look o.k. but who knows.
The dimensions shown here in the drawing are what mine are as near as I can tell. Some are 8 inches across the top and 4 inch top to bottom rivet holes with a bigger hanger bolt hole. ---- gets kinda confusing to say the least.
VIN.# 3FEKF37F1VMA41591 The truck was made in either Mexico or Canada Ford plant.
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722-012 Dorman Leaf Spring Hanger Front or Rear New for F350 Truck Ford F-350 137"wheelbase Chassis Cab $91.81ea JC Whitney-La Salle,IL via eBay # 125152673791
listed as for 2-1/2"wide spring,maybe thats what you have not the 3"wide spring..this is going to take some research, at least Amazon lets you return it
I ran your VIN thru partsmatch and it didnt come up..missing a character or number? confirm your VIN again if you can..
some pix of the drivers side. as you can see---they bad! --- and of ourse my new tail lights!! Hope the assholes that tailgate me all the time like these in their face!!! LOL! Damn led shit!! --- anyway they do work,--also got them in the trailer.
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Vin # is off the cab tag and that is all the numbers it has. Truck was made in mexico. bottom tag shows gvw front 4400 ,--rear 8250. another part of the tag says ext.---wb161 ---pntbrk with b under it,---axle 65 ---tr e and spr. yh . I assume the wheelbase could be 161??? ---- it is a long truck,--kinda,--sorta. My springs besaure EXACTLY 2 - 1/4" wide and not 2-1/2 or 3! That is whats making it hard to track down anything.
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I just measured the spring leaves, I assume thats what they go by! could be wrong but the 2 -1/2 brackets have the wrong rivet hole pattern and the main hole is too big. One site I looked at goes into what ring gear diameter it is!! Talk about shit!! -- one wanted to know what axle it was, ( brand/series) --- and I have no clue! lol!
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Ya I know Jim! BUT I was just informed that my spending for the next year is nixed! --We have a major expense outlay for next year so I cant trade trucks! lol! Gotta hire a company to plant our farm in weeds to comply with usda conservation practices,--going to put the farm back into crp program since our renter quit farming. --- BIG cash outlay for the first year then we start making money again.
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I thought maybe the front spring perch and rear spring perch was the same but now looking at your photos it sure looks like the front perch has the spread angled wings on it and the rear perch with the shackle is more straight sided. Guaranteed to be a PITA no matter what to replace, even torching the rivits out,cleaning up the mount area of the frame and then resetting the new mounts with bolts is a whole weekend job with everything in front of you..for my money you'd be into new end-eye bolts as well for the springs. Might also be much easier to do one side at a time, meaning drop the u-bolts but that would mean replacing them as well. Any good spring shop can bend up new u-bolts for you. $15-20 bucks each and it all adds up around $500 in materials.
no super duty, just regular cab on it. I assume all factory original. I know it wont be cheep/easy fix! --never is for me! -- still gotta do it somehow!
front corner of the truck. The bed was 12' when I got it and I cut 2' off the back so its now 8' x 10' and perfect for my needs. I put the new hitch on it and everything pulls great from it.
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Might have found some Dorman part #'s at Summit Racing for the stuff I need front hangers ---722-012 ---79.95 rear hangers ---722-096 ---26.95 shackles ---722-090 --41.95
No dimensions but Summit Racing has a good listing and it looks like this might be the right parts. NAPA also sells Dorman parts,-- probably higher there dont know. Anyway if ya would double check my findings I would be greatfull!
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Might have found some Dorman part #'s at Summit Racing for the stuff I need front hangers ---722-012 ---79.95 rear hangers ---722-096 ---26.95 shackles ---722-090 --41.95
No dimensions but Summit Racing has a good listing and it looks like this might be the right parts. NAPA also sells Dorman parts,-- probably higher there dont know. Anyway if ya would double check my findings I would be greatfull!
I've been surprised that lately NAPA has actually been cheaper than others on some stuff here lately. have to adapt to competition or fold I guess
I know a lot about a lot of things BUT I still have a lot to learn. Life is what you make of it. So, why not make a working machine to make it easier.
O.k.! looked closer at th 722-012 and they are for 2- 1/2" springs!! Damn! -- Ya, that wont work. --holes in the wrong place and too big! wish I could find the dimesions for these parts!
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30 years or so ago, I converted a 77 C-10 to 4wd. got the parts from an old city salt truck. Sure was fun cutting the holes in the frame for the Front suspension and placing the spring mounts for it. put a 4" body lift on the truck and still had to modify the shit out of the floor pan for the transfer case. drove it for 4 years after that as a daily vehicle until I got a shiny new 4wd Silverado.. wish I had kept the Silverado. traded it in for the Cheyanne I have now. damn NV3500 is still slinging oil so I have to get back into it soon
I know a lot about a lot of things BUT I still have a lot to learn. Life is what you make of it. So, why not make a working machine to make it easier.
never give up, the parts ARE out there,just gotta find the combination that will work. I saw a complete 97 chassis cab in a Calif. yard was sellijng the Sterling dually rear out of it, the parts truck probably just what Sonny is looking for..(eBay#175469777683) -just torch cut the whole back of the truck off set it on your trailer turn and burn back to IL,talk about road trip..sometimes that is what it takes.I know easy for me to say..Call some of these yards local they usually pull the axles and sadly crush the rest, maybe they'd make you a deal. the dually axles and suspension are narrower than the regular pickups..another idea, maybe measure the frame width and adapt a more recent axle,spring and spring hanger setup as long as it's still using 8x6.5 lug pattern before Ford switched to the newer hub piloted wheels..
Ok one last stab at this is a guy in Oaktown,IN with a 1988 Ford F350 cab/chassis selling the rear axle,its a Sterling like yours call him maybe he can give you some info on spring hangers/parts 765-409-3047 eBay#304369282133 Bedrock Jeep Parts
Yes with a 7.3L diesel and a flatbed I'd be rebuilding that truck stem to stern if I had a need like Sonny..they go for 65grand new..hell 20grand used isnt unheard of..too cold now,wait till spring..my Chevy K-30 is waiting just the same..This is not my problem truck but now Im takin it as a challenge to find some '97 mounts..got a yard in TX workin on it..they do frame cuts as well,just what you need Sonny lets see what we can find
My problem right now is the cashflow here! BIG farm expense just came up! -- Lost renter we had for 8 or 10 years and aint dealingwith the idiots around here that call themselves farmers so I got the farm put into crp program and gotta hire a company to seed it down in approved weeds and its just a tad under $25,000 for the whole farm. First payment from the govt wont be til October 23 so between now and then I am screwed as for spending on anything. This is a 10 year contract and per acre payments are way better than cash rent, so not much choice. HATE govt but sometimes ya gotta go with the flow no matter how evil it is! Had to get bank loan for part of the expense. Always something around here to contend with! Looks like auctions are out for the coming year too unless its something VERY cheeeep! LOL!!
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Its Ok Sonny the back half of a 97 chassis cab truck might just show up on your doorstep..ya know maybe it might get hand delivered by two of my associates, Moose and Rocko..you might havta do a little late-night backhoe work for 'em one day as a return favor tho
O.K.,-----found spring hangers at General Spring Company and they are listed as for cab chassics f-350 with 2-1/4" leaf width! Ordered them and hope for the best! Their diagram matches my dimensions so they gotta be the right ones. They have stuff for 1953 on up to the new shit on ford's so keep them in mind if you need spring stuff,--they have all kinds/brands/models covered.
While I have to cut the rivits out,--- I might see about cutting the bed off and flop it over and chop the nonworking hoist that it came with! I have a good one from the auction that I wanted to put under the bed.
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glad you are making some progress on that 'tough nut to crack' F350 Sonny..get 'er in shape..it's cheaper than $65K for a new one..unless I hit Powerball then I'll buy you and your good wife matching trucks
When I did that 4x4 conversion, I drilled through the rivets to get the spring mounts off the doner chassis. went just a little smaller so I wouldn't mess up the holes, then ground what was left of the rivet head off. used a chisel & heavy hammer to finish the job. Just an Idea..
I know a lot about a lot of things BUT I still have a lot to learn. Life is what you make of it. So, why not make a working machine to make it easier.
I've replace hangers on two rangers. Cut off the rivet heads with an angle grinder, pound out the rest of the rivet with an air hammer with a point. Replace with bolts (I think 7/16?) on the new ones.
I've replace hangers on two rangers. Cut off the rivet heads with an angle grinder, pound out the rest of the rivet with an air hammer with a point. Replace with bolts (I think 7/16?) on the new ones.
I didn't have the air hammer back then wish I did.
I know a lot about a lot of things BUT I still have a lot to learn. Life is what you make of it. So, why not make a working machine to make it easier.
I was thinking too ,---grind and punch,---THEN if that dont do it, drill the ones that dont punch out. Gonna be interesting to get under there to say the least! ---might have to take the bed off first to get more room,--then I could work on it standing up!
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Sonny get some 1/4" COBALT drill bits,(material made from, not the brand name) they last much longer on old hard material like rivets..glad to see you found the General Spring site,it looks like they have everything you need
Ya General Spring came up on my last ditch effort to track down something and I had to jump on it before it went away,---damn computer messin up for the last 2 weeks,---not sure whats up with it,---been workin super for 10 years, shouldnt be worn out! LOL!! anyway, ya, I f I gotta drill anything out I will get some better bits if the ones I have dont do the job. ---I have a frame drill somewhere but it too has evaded me, so its the Skil Classic 3/8'ths to do the job! I hope to be able to work on it when warm weather comes to stay. Been using the truck a lot since the weather is so - so for temps,---raelly hard to start but the injectors are junk so that dont help. When temps get much lower I will park it for the rest of the winter. I have used it more this winter since the wiring was fixed. it does run good once you get it started. Batteries are 2 years old now and probably about gone. I have 2 smaller new ones for tractors but might have to use them in the truck and the truck ones in the tractors, and that would keep newer ones in the truck cause it gotta spin FAST to even fire!
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Sonny I know you don't currently like YouTube, nut check out these guys on YT, "Pakistani Truck"..the rebuilds and work done on a level that is unbelievable on a dirt lot most of 'em wearing flip-flops and open toe shoes. They custom build the leaf spring hangers right there in the shop from 1/2"plate..Manufacturer's GVWR increased right there in the lot by 20,000lbs easy..I dont get excited by a whole lot but this is good to watch.
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