Hi Gator, Thanks for the link. I've downloaded all the pdf's and just had a quick look now, your tractor certainly a bit bigger than the cadtrac. I've been looking around on the internet a lot this weekend at different tractor types. I liked what I seen on this site http://www.cdp-backhoe.com/ . I like the Rhino but I don't want a long tractor, the skid steers are good but how easy would it be to attach a backhoe to one I don't know. I'm a bit inclined now to build a Cadtrac but doing some modifications such as making it about 12" longer but maintaining its width. If I end up bulding something I will certainly be posting the build on here.